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The caller to Allah is not an oppressor December 19, 2009

Posted by Rasheed Eldin in Concepts, Islam.

In striving to clarify the teachings of Islam regarding sexuality, and inviting the creation to obey their Creator in what He commanded them and prohibited them from, while responding to false claims and misconceptions, we hope to be counted among the callers to Allah, of whom the Qur’an says:

And who is better in speech than one who invites to Allah, works righteousness, and says: “I am of the Muslims”?

Name-calling does not hurt us, but it is sad to see how readily the people towards whom this sincere advice and invitation is directed turn against those who – from their hearts – wish the best for them. Sometimes medicine is bitter. The Qur’an provides many examples of the people’s rejection of their prophets and other reformers, which we may exemplify here with the case of the People of Lut (peace be on him):

But his people’s response was only that they said: “Eject them from your town. They are a people who want to be pure!”

When we tell people (Muslims!) that homosexual acts are forbidden in the Qur’an and Sunnah in the strictest terms, and that the person who engages in them will receive severe divine punishments if he does not repent, some people call us oppressors (“homophobes”). Well what should we be, “haramophiles”? If the person who is forbidden from following his desires considers himself oppressed, or – as they say – a victim of discrimination, then who is the guilty party?

When I tell someone to abstain from a sin he is attracted to (and claims to be created desiring it!) I am not his oppressor, because: (1) I did not create him; (2) I did not legislate the prohibition of that act. So if either of these things is the “crime”, then would someone accuse Almighty God!! Glory be to Him, Who does not oppress anyone in the least.

{…And your Lord does not wrong anyone.} [18:49]

In fact, if someone were walking to a place to commit a sin, and he happened to fall and break his leg, this would be the greatest divine mercy upon him. How much better that we receive admonition and heed it, seeking the pleasure of Allah and safety from His wrath.

Finally, as I said to someone who was seeking to justify homosexual acts in the name of mercy: “Our approach says that anyone can be a Companion of Paradise, while yours seeks to give people vain hopes then send them to Hell.”


1. AN - December 31, 2009

I cannot understand the term “Gay Muslim”, there is nothing as such, Islam and Homosexuality are two incompatible. Seriously, those who chose homosexuality should not call themselves Muslims anymore, why do they care whether they’re called Muslims or not if they’re not willing to live by the Islamic way of life?

2. Rasheed Eldin - December 31, 2009

Basically you are right, but there are some nuances to bear in mind. See for example:

I don’t believe we should be urging people to abandon the name of Islam right away, as by so doing we are driving them from the religion rather than inviting them back to God’s obedience.

That being said, we should warn people who “choose homosexuality” in the sense of deciding to act upon their desires and adopt a sinful lifestyle, that to consider their acts *permissible* would negate their claim to be Muslim.

Does using the name “gay Muslim” for themselves show that they consider it permissible? Although this may be often the case, it isn’t a definite rule so we shouldn’t rush to judgment.

Jayne - January 2, 2010

The purpose of sex is PROCREATION. The entire act involves semen and an egg to produce a child.

A raped woman can create a child because of sex.

Gay individuasls try yo call their relayionship love.

Whats love got to do with procreation.

It amazes me how gay men try to be women and gay women try to be men. As if they subconciously they know that two men one has to be a woman and two women one has to be the man.

I have friends of the same sex I love but I do not want to have sex with them. Do they believe they cannot love their friends without sleeping with them?

When a gay man can bleed once a month I will say he is a woman.

When a gay woman can produce semen I will say she is a man.

My problem with gays is that I can accept them being gay but they refuse to accept my chose to remain straight.

You will never convince me homosexuality or adultery is correct.

Yes these two do exist, I realize that, but not in my life.

I guess next we will be accepting those people who have sex with animals.

3. Thomas Muhamad Husayn Steele - January 14, 2010


You nor any other Muslim has the authority to decide who is or isn’t a Muslim by their deeds. Whom or What do you think you are. Check the authentic Hadith about the Prophet’s sallahu alaihi wa salaam, admonitions regarding what makes one a Muslim, and it has much more to do with Allah and His Knowledge of what is within one’s heart, not with what others think of one.

I wish I would run into one of you fellow believers. Unlike what is happening in Iraq and Lebanon, with the murders of percieved ” homosexuals”, I would have these “defenders of the faith” running to their mothers with bloody noses. One should remember that not all Gay men are effeminate or easy to ” pick out”. Again, if one of you had the good fortune, insh’Allah, of crossing my path or the paths of my loved ones you would certainly be calling for Allah(swt) help.

I have been a Muslim for over twenty years , AlhamduliLlah, for twenty years, and was born a homosexual. I live in a partnership with my male lover and have lived according to Sunnah and Shari’ah, praying five times a day and modelling my life after the Prophet’s sallahu alayhi wa sallam, as much as I am able. No one will tell me I am not a Muslim.

I encourage any who think that Allah(swt) needs their help, or feel that they have some inherent right to kill or maim homosexuals to pay me a visit in Arizona, where I live, to come pay a visit, you’ll end up with more than a bloody nose, Masha’Llah.

john - March 21, 2010

AMAZING POST. I am also gay and commend you on your strength in not abandoning your faith. No one but the maker knows what is truly in your heart.

4. Rasheed Eldin - January 15, 2010

Nice threats Thomas.

Fortunately, nobody on this site has ever departed from the stance of Ahl as-Sunnah that:
“We do not call anyone from Ahl al-Qiblah (i.e. the Muslim nation) a disbeliever for a sin he commits, so long as he does not declare it permissible.” (Al-‘Aqeedah At-Tahawiyyah)

The strict conditions for takfeer, which is not a matter to be taken lightly, are thoroughly discussed in the books of creed and jurisprudence.

So why this reaction from you, Thomas?

Did you perhaps misunderstand what I wrote in my comment above, that “that to consider their acts *permissible* would negate their claim to be Muslim”?

Thank God that He guided you to Islam. But don’t tell me that having a “male lover” is included in “living according to Shari’ah”. At least if you commit such horrible major sins quietly, perhaps Allah would have mercy on you. But try to change the religion, and that is another matter. You should be ashamed to misuse the name of Allah the Exalted in the way you have just done.

Be clear, I am not interested in making takfeer of you. I am just saying look after your contract with Allah by fearing him and repenting.

5. Tuke - May 4, 2010

I would like to say that the Qur’an DOES NOT PROHIBIT HOMOSEXUALITY AT ALL.

The condemnation in the case of the qawn Luut is that it deals with the heterosexuals only. This SEPARATION of the SEXUAL IDENTITY can be simply proved that there are no laws or prescriptions about the punishment of the homosexuals in the Qur’an, whereby zina is specifically for heterosexuals. It is clear that in the Qur’an, when Allah wants to be clear about something, indeed he is very clear, such as the laws of punishment, if it is not clear then the study of that issue has to go for the message and the essence of the Qur’an as a whole and true study of the natural world, which is one with the Qur’an.

The punishment of the qawm Luut is alignment with all the other punished people for simple reason that they all turned away from the path of Allah. Hence, they are not special, except for the clear mention of the word “RIJAAL”; this brings the sexual identity of the HETEROSEXUALS to the centre-piece in the total range of sexual identity available in the god created (natural) world.
For this the Qur’an does not go on in details the punishments that should be applied against homosexuals, but goes on in detail the punishments that should be applied if heterosexuals commit sexual acts outside of marriage.
Therefore, the rest (non-heterosexuals), in consentual adults, and with GENERAL morality and conducts of Islam (equal to that of heterosexuals) fall outside of these SPECIFIC laws, but stay one with the GENERAL Islamic laws.
For this, it can be argued rightly that there is no requirement for homosexuals to marry; the General Iimaan (which is one half of the Islamic law, without it the law becomes useless and oppressive, opposite of its purpose) gives them the same attitude to relationships to be formed among themselves. Therefore, the law is proportional to the type of sexuality (the specific and non-specific), whether it is the centre-role in gluing the species and its continuation or whether off the centre in playing the role of the multiple dimensions that give support and flexibility in its survival for continuation, but nevertheless, they are equal in roles that they play in the society.

In order this to work in practise, the Muslims have to follow the Qur’an (which is crystal clear, and surprisingly simple) with Iimaan. It means, clearing misconceptions that the hadith is correct (the majority of it is corrupt, and the small amount left needs to be viewed from the point of view of the Qur’an and not vice versa), and stopping borrowing from the bible and the torah, which is tradition for Muslims (unacceptable!), and particular beliefs of “-ism” which over time have built up. Simply the QUR’AN ONLY. THE WORD OF ALLAH and NOT THAT OF MAN.

Rasheed Eldin - May 4, 2010

First of all, Tuke, let’s be clear that your “Qur’an-only” approach is a heresy, before we even get to the issues of homosexuality. Nevertheless, you are wrong even from a purely Qur’anic perspective. If you note the arguments presented on this site, they don’t depend exclusively on the hadiths, but take their lead from the Qur’an.

In particular, you should see our study of the punishment of Qawm Lut here, which is based on Surah A’raf:

You seem keen to stress a distinction between something called “heterosexual” and something called “non-heterosexual” to which different standards apply. Good luck trying to find these ideas in the Qur’an without putting your back out!

The concept of Zina in the Qur’an is broad enough to encompass any sexual relations outside of marriage, whether the word used is Zina or not. For example:
{But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors} [23:7]

You are also a little too caught up on the issue of prescribed punishments. There are plenty of things prohibited in the Qur’an and Sunnah for which no punishment is prescribed, indeed those are the majority of sins.

6. Isa Bin Maryam - August 13, 2010

The persecution of Gays in both “muslim” and non muslim societies is a test be the Creator to see who among us are Believers. Where mercy is nonexistant Almighty Bhagwan, Allah judges a people aright. Persecution oppression in all forms will be removed from the world when Truth is revealed.

Rasheed Eldin - August 14, 2010

An interesting twist, but twisted indeed. Truth was revealed in the Qur’an and before, and Allah has already judged what is pure for us and what is prohibited, and homosexual acts fall squarely into the latter category. So drawing attention to this, and turning society against such abominations, is not persecution. Mercy in this case means calling people away from sin and protecting society from its influence.

7. jamila - March 4, 2011

Haven’t they read what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah during prophet Lot’s reign. They should continue and they will come face to face with the Almighty Allah very soon.


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