Daayiee vs. the “rabid homophobes” April 27, 2006Posted by Rasheed Eldin in Proggies, Queer Muslims, Responses.
Please see my reflections on The role of the “scholars” for some background to this. I always enjoy the comments of Daayiee Abdullah, the heretical fake sheikh of Al-Fahisha who runs the MuslimGayMen group. Every time he writes, he exposes himself as a sham, yet most of the members apparently can't see it: probably because they don't want to. For some reason, he often inserts a MODERATOR'S NOTE into people's messages instead of replying to them with his own opinion, like anybody else.
For the record, and I have checked with Mujahid, there has never been any StraightWay-initiated debate on there, and neither I nor he have ever posted there. I say this for two reasons: (1) Daayiee has lied about that more than once; (2) So you know that this current MGM disagreement has nothing to do with us. StraightWay doesn't bother with them, but I want you to know what happens on these groups.
So… someone posted a bunch of links to audio from the following: Dr. Jamal Badawi, Bilal Philips, Yusuf Estes, Abdullah Hakim Quick, Dawud Wharnsby … Maulana Syed Maududi, Maulana Habibur Rahman, Maulana Nisar Ahmed, Maulana Inayatullah Gujarati, Maulana Hafiz Mohd Idris, Dr. Farhat Ali Berni, Dr. Hasanuddin Ahmed … And in pops Daayiee with his power-trip note, followed by a separate message because he hadn't completed his rant.
[MODERATOR'S NOTE: Brother Saleem Wala, I hope that you are aware that the people you are promoting are rabid homophobes. I have heard several of their works concerning homosexuality and they promote the destruction of homosexuals. I wonder why would you send such materials to MGM members? Are you here as a spy for them? Or, are you so self-hating that you want to see all gay Muslims suffer as you do today? I would think you would perfer a place like StraightwayUK or other organizations that promote the demise of gay Muslims. Please reply. Brother Daayiee]
MGMers, Salaam. Sorry, but I forgot to mention that these personalities are also extremely pro-Wahhabi-oriented, several are funded by the Saudi oil money, and they receive monies from ISNA and ICNA of North America. Most of that ilk are quite narrow-minded, Arab culture and tribal society focused folks. They provide their poison in small doses so it more palatable. What do you say, Brother Faisal? Brother Daayiee
Fascinating, as it is further exposes the agenda of these queer Muslims, or at least their "openly gay Imam". Which contemporary scholars are not "homophobes" by his standard? What about classical scholars and throughout the ages? Should knowledge only be taken from the LGBT-friendly ones? Who are they, and what is their contribution to the wider corpus of Islamic knowledge?
Remember that this is the Daayiee Abdullah who claims to be a graduate of GSISS and the special student of Sh. Taha Jabir Alalwani. See The Stripy Charlatan for details of this sham. Daayiee claims to have studied under various scholars, but doesn't name them. Is it because they don't exist, or that they don't know him, or that they would repudiate him publicly for his lies against them?
I want Daayiee to answer this: is Sh. T.J. Alalwani one of these "rabid homophobes"? Or do you claim that he has a non-disapproving view of homosexuality and those who practise and promote it, you being in the worst rank of such? I dare you to make your claim, then we shall see what Sh. Taha says about it. You will regret your lies and your artifical edifice will crumble around you, leaving only the die-hard deviants at your side.
In comes another user, who simply enquires: "I don't get it..none of the topics have anything to do with homosexuality…what's the big deal?" Daayiee 'replies' with another butt-in note:
[MODERATOR'S NOTE: Salaam, Nasir. My note points out that a lot of their materials when it comes to halaal and haraam, homosexuality is always listed with murders, criminal types, et cetera–the same line that most Wahhabis promote. These people, as I said, are funded by Saudi oil money and get paid through ISNA or ICNA or their own websites. Look at their videos, read their materials–all are anti-homosexual.
Brother Muhsin (Inner Circle in South Africa) had a radio debate with Abdullah Hakim Quick and once confronted his arguments for promoting an anti-gay/anti-homosexual message fails flat on its face. My point is that the way people package their materials frequently contain "hidden" messages that many hear and believe.
Nasir, just because something has written on it one thing does not mean it contains only that material. If Prophet Mohammed's name is use/listed we should be careful because many people use Prophet Mohammed's name for their personal agendas and not for the promotion of truth. In stating this, we must remain aware that when a writer or author produces a product, it does not mean they are not promoting additional personal beliefs that Prophet Mohammed did not support–for example, the Wahhabi doctrine of Islam. Does that make my point clear? If not, let me know. Brother Daayiee]
So does Daayiee want to say that only the "Wahhabi doctrine" is anti-homosexuality? Oh, come on. We Muslims have many differences and divisions, but on this, there is consensus. The only ones to break this consensus are queer charlatans like Daayiee Abdullah plus whoever is confused and/or desperate enough to believe them.
As for this Muhsin Hendricks: don't worry, he'll get our examination and treatment before long. It's interesting that Hendricks and friends have posted his side of the debate, but omitted the other side (always essential for a, erm, debate). One of our colleagues asked Dr. Quick about this debate, and he said that Hendricks was utterly defeated. If we can get hold of the whole thing, be sure that it will be coming up here for your perusal.
In the meantime, enjoy a Khutbah by the phenomenal Dr Jamal Badawi about same-sex marriages (from back when it was a controversy in Canada). Just scroll down this IslamOnline page until you reach Dec 10, 2004. There's also one by Dr Munir El-Kassem.